This sensitivity to houses of helio planets extends to the Midheaven and Ascendant, the angles, as well as between the progressed angles and helio planets. The constant interweaving between our public and private lives, as well as in our concepts of recognition or simple involvement with the larger world, defies a neat separation. After working with a dual system chart for years, which originally came about as a solution to enhance a comparison of the systems, and without any idea of the revelations which would ensue, using a combined chart seems to be the only practical method.
A number of aspects between planets are possible only in the heliocentric system, such as Mercury-square-Sun and Earth , or Mercury-trine-Venus.
These 'new' aspects concentrate around Mercury, Venus, and the Sun or Earth , because the heliocentric system releases Mercury and Venus from the bond to the Sun found in the traditional chart to show their circle around the zodiac and Sun using an orb of approximately three degrees. It was through my early study of aspects that I began to grasp the enormous significance of heliocentric to every phase of astrology. The decision to include or exclude Earth's position in a dual system chart is a matter of personal preference.
The Earth is always exactly opposite the Sun [in the helio system]. Any aspect to the Sun automatically forms an aspect to Earth.
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After observing that people responded more as though they were receiving an opposition to the Sun rather than a conjunction with Earth, I decided to simplify the chart, leave Earth out, and keep the primary focus on the Sun. The human quest 'to find our place in the Sun' was the determining factor. As a satellite of planet Earth, logic would declare the Moon nearly invulnerable to heliocentric influence, yet I have not found this to be the case.
Exceptionally dramatic examples come to mind, most especially Moon-helio Venus or Mars mixes which were classic.
Experiments are urged not to dismiss Moon-helio planet aspects without examination. Neatness counts when both systems are drawn into the chart circle. It is necessary to really look at the chart, but the rules for finding particular planets are actually quite simple. Locate the Sun first. The geo Mercury or Venus will be close to the Sun.
If either are retrograde, look to the other side of the chart for its helio position.
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With any of the planets, the geocentric position will be closer to the Sun than its counterpart in the heliocentric system. For fast-moving Mercury, its helio position is likely to be considerably farther ahead or behind its geo position. As these fundamentals have been given, it should be clear that there are some highly significant differences between the systems, [for example] Mercury is Mercury in either system.
A square aspect retains its challenging influence. Rulerships are familiar, and so on. The enormous advancement in understanding our role in this universal ecological system and in timing changes makes the effort more than worthwhile.
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Patrick Davis started her astrological teaching career early in in St. She joined the Faculty of AFA in , and shortly thereafter published her first book. From all her efforts became concentrated on grasping the implications of the heliocentric system in practical, down-to-earth astrology.
Exploration of Heliocentric and the Solar Dimension by T. What is Heliocentric? Differences in position Each planet has its own orbit and distance from the Sun or Earth, so each one will have its own rules. Heliocentric Planetary Influence After much experimentation with multiple thousands of charts, there was a recognition that the core influence associated with a planet bore the same characteristics between the systems. Heliocentric Sign Influence Sign influence is as potent in heliocentric as in geocentric.
Houses and Heliocentric Theorists assumed there could be no house influence for helio planets, but apparently never tested their preconceptions. Mixing Geo-Helio The constant interweaving between our public and private lives, as well as in our concepts of recognition or simple involvement with the larger world, defies a neat separation.
Aspects A number of aspects between planets are possible only in the heliocentric system, such as Mercury-square-Sun and Earth , or Mercury-trine-Venus. The heliocentric positions do differ from the geocentric positions, and I do know that many astrologers find heliocentric charts interesting. Ask Kevin: Miscellaneous Questions. Overall Rating 0. Login to post a comment.
Remember me. Register Forgot password. Comments Add yours. In the Magi Astrochart, declinational motion is shown like this: Planets shown inside the polygon on the left are moving northward up. Planets shown in inside the polygon on the right are moving southward down.
Again, Magi Society research has clearly demonstrated that the 3rd and 4th dimensions of Magi Astrology are equally as important as the 1st and 2nd dimensions described above. The 3rd dimension of Magi Astrology- the heliocentric longitudes- is the locations of the planets in the horizontal plane around the chart wheel as viewed from the Sun rather than the Earth.
The 4th dimension is the equivalent to the geocentric declinations- the locations of the planets in the vertical plane their "altitude" north or south as viewed from the Sun- though in heliocentric charts, this dimension is called the heliocentric latitudes. We call this Magi Zodiac7. Zodiac7 has conclusively proven itself to be of equal importance as standard Zodiac12 charts. The chart above is a heliocentric Magi Astrochart showing the same date as the previous charts.
The motion in the helio latitudes in indicated the same way as in the declinations, though in the latitudes, the Earth is always centered.